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How To Use The Ball Machine With Expert Stan Oley, USPTA (013)

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Learn how to use the ball machine with Stan Oley, Tennis Professional and Product Marketing Specialist for Playmate Ball Machines.

 In Today’s episode, I talk with Ball Machine Expert, and Tennis Professional, Stan Oley, on the advantages, disadvantages, drills and why you should be using a ball machine. I follow up with questions regarding serving, putting the priorities of your game, in the right order and how to anticipate better. I also have a well put together 14 drill ball machine guide with detailed descriptions and video for one and two players  that is your for FREE

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Today, I talk with Ball Machine Expert, and Tennis Professional, Stan Oley, the Product Marketing Specialist for Playmate Ball Machines on the advantages, disadvantages, Drills and why you should be using a ball machine. I will go over his resume as we start the interview.

The ball machine is an awesome tool if you use it correctly. You can even use it with more than one person and even make things competitive if you like. It does not have to be a stand there and hit sort of experience. I have something that will show you what I mean that I have been working on and

Now for me personally, I trained on the ball machine quite a bit and it helped me out a lot. I was not a tennis player initially as a youngster. I was a baseball, basketball and football player with not a lot of interest in playing tennis until I started hanging out with a buddy of mine who, at the time, was ranked #2 in the country as a junior player. He hurt his wrist one summer, and said that he would teach me tennis if I taught him basketball. Needless to say, we shots baskets for about 20 minutes and then hit tennis balls for a couple hours. I loved it!

So now the next step was, how do I catch up to all of the players that have been playing for the past 6 years? My answer was to take lessons and then practice what I learned, on the ball machine. I knew that hitting with someone was good, but I could get a lot more balls in and catch up to the other players by hitting on the machine.

Let’s say that the average point is 3 shots ( this is pretty accurate), the average game is 6 points, the average set is 9 games and the average match is 2.5 sets, all in the average match time, 1.5 hours. If you do the math ( 6 points per game = 3 forehands (remember 50/50) per game x 9 games per set = 27 forehends per set x 2.5 sets in a match = 27 x 2.5 = 67.5 forehands this means that in an hour and 38 minutes ( average match time), you will hit 67.5 forehands (Volleys and serves are even lower)!  Guess what……..You will hit this many forehands in 6 minutes on the ball machine ( if a ball came out every 5.3 seconds), which is actually slow for the feed rate on the machine

So is this a good thing? Definitely, if you know what you are doing. This is why the lesson before is so important, or at least some sort of Screen Shot 2014-11-25 at 1.35.23 PMinstruction from someone knowledgeable.  So BEFORE you get on the machine, it would be in your best interest to know what you are supposed to be doing and even more importantly, know the FEEL of what you are doing, so you know if it is right or not.

This way, you can “Get it right” more times when you are practicing on the machine and if it is all about muscle memory, I would think that you would want to be doing it the correct way MORE times to program your stroke patterns in a positive way.  One way I say it to my students is that if you practice something wrong lot of times in a row…….guess what……you will be really good at doing it wrong!  This is one disadvantage, but the advantages definitely outweigh the disadvantages, like they did for me and I know that hey can for you too.

Key points that I got from my Interview with Stan that will help the next time you use the machine

1. Practice what you need work on, not what you are good at

2. Aim for AREAS and not targets.  This will boost your confidence.  Targets are awfully hard to hit, but areas are much more realistic

3. Make sure that the machine does not just give you the same feed each time.  If possible have it vary the height, speed and spin.  This makes it more like the balls that you will RECEIVE in a match

4. Move the machine around the court instead of just in the middle.  pretend it is a player and put it where you want the posing players to be (ex. returner and you are the server’s partner working on volleys down the middle).

Screen Shot 2014-11-20 at 10.55.04 PMLISTNER QUESTIONS  (More detail in podcast) – Time mark next to question

From: Rob – Gold River California
Question: Can you describe the timing of the weight transfer on the serve?
Go to – 55:54

 

To get a very detailed answer, go to www.realtennisnetwork.com/freeserveguide and check out the details on ALL 10 stages of the serve. This guide includes details and videos of the pros in all 10 stages including the weight transfer. But to answer your question, the weight will start to transfer to the back foot at the very beginning of the serve and then it will transfer FOWARD/DOWN AND UP in that order.

To keep it simple if you are starting out, when the arms go up, the knees go down ( Don’t get in the “Backscratch” here) and when the knees start to drive up and out, the arm drops (into the cocking stage with the elbow up) and then shoots up and out into the ball. You will see exactly what I am talking about in the guide. It is not one and then the next, in terms of weight transfer, but a smooth transition in both the one and two point stances after stage 1 which is the Preparation Stage. The weight transfer back is really he start of the motion after the Preparation Stage


From: Bogdan – Stuttgart, Germany
Question: Which of the following is no 1 priority for a junior player to master: technique, footwork, mental game?
Go to – 1:00:37

What a great question. This has a lot to do with development and the level of the junior. If you were starting from the ground up and I could only pick these three areas, I would put them in this order:

  1. Footwork
  2. Technique
  3. Mental game

The reason is that I have worked on this in our programs at our club specifically, based on the research that is out there and those I have studied who have done research on this very subject, there are two very important windows that we have to be aware of. The first window comes about around the ages of 10-12. This window is that of agility, balance and coordination or the ABC’s of athleticism. This window starts to shut around age 10 ( so basically, it gets harder to master after this), so footwork skills should be addresses first. I have a summer camp for young players where they play tennis first and then a second sport ( a different one each day for 8 days) in order to help them learn the skills needed for any sport (hopefully tennis). Harder today because of the tablet generation.

The second window is at the age of puberty where bodies start going through some major changes. Having skill-sets in place before this stage is essential as well. For example I know runners, especially females, that ran the mile faster BEFORE puberty, because of the changes their body went through after puberty.

Istvan Balyi put together a great 5 stage system for any athlete in which the USTA has supported. I know this because I sent over his research years ago. Go to: http://www.oxfordshiresport.org/uploads/long-term-athlete-development-article.pdf

I would put technique as second. This goes along with coordination, but what about strategy? Strategy and technique go hand in hand, especially in junior players.

If you use the game based approach (get them playing first ), this will lead to questions about technique and kids will be more willing to listen if they know they are having trouble in a certain area strategically and a specific technique will help them improve in this situation. The game based approach will also give players every ball possible as compared to a lesson where coaches tens to feed the same ball or a limited number of balls to the player and leave a bunch out.

Kids would rather play anyway and a junior who keeps getting beat and wants to get better is usually more willing to listen and learn.

I introduce tennis to kids in the schools and it amazes me to watch them pick up a racquet (never played before) and say “Who wants to play” This is what kids want to do. Not once has a kid said, “Who wants to learn proper stroke mechanics” Of course they are not serious yet, but kids are kids, so keep this in mind as you teach the kids who want to be great players.

As for the mental game, this is what turned my game around. If a junior has a major problem in this area, you may want to jump on it early so they can learn more effectively, but the key to being mentally though is being realistic and going from there

Like I said in the podcast, I started late and hung around some really good players.

As a kid, that made me think that I was really good and got caught up in the talk, just by hanging out with nationally ranked players. I was in the best drill group at our club, because I was an athlete and did develop my skills by playing ALL of the sports before the age of 10, but then when I played my first tournament after drilling and practicing for a year and a half, I got beat by a kid who was two classes below me.

I was in the best class, hung out with all the great players, but after this happened couple more times, I remember writing down in my little notebook that I kept in my racquet bag for after my lessons, “Mick,….you stink.” You think you are better than you really are. Once I was realistic with myself, I knew exactly what I had to do to get better……..Play a lot of practice matches. So for me, my daily schedule was to hit and drill with a partner for an hour ( lets say. Work on my volleys and do some good volley drills with them), and then the second hour, play out points against someone else (or them) and come to the net at every opportunity I could.

Then I went home, ate, did my homework and went back to the club and worked on my volley on the ball machine. Guess what….I started winning a lot more.

Typically though with players who are starting out , technique is more important initially and as they get better, it becomes less of a focus……. while the mental game and strategy start off a bit less important and become much more of a focus as one improves.

For example, a beginner might focus 80% of their effort on technique and footwork initially with 10% focused on the mental game and 10% focused on strategy while the pros focus a lot less on technique and more on strategy and their mental games. This model has changed a bit due to the game based approach where technique and strategy work hand in hand.

As for technique, remember that tactics win matches, technique enhances your tactics. For example, Ask a dinker about their technique (not much) and then look at the tactics (never miss and chase everything down). This is why they have a room full of trophies at home. Tactics win!


From: Mark- Arizona
Question: What will help me improve my anticipation of the opponents next shot?
Go to – 1:13:49

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I love this question, because one part if the stroke that we do not think a lot about is what do we do AFTER we hit the ball, or RECOVERY.

Recovery can be defined as Where you move AFTER you hit the ball to give you the greatest chance of getting to your opponents next shot

So you need to recover to the proper place after you hit your shot.

Screen Shot 2014-11-25 at 9.27.05 PMExample: in singles, when you hit crosscourt, you DO NOT recover back to the center mark, but as a general rule, you should recover crosscourt from where you hit the ball ( so not to the center in this situation, but just short of the center so you are equal in distance from both possible shots that your opponent can possibly hit back to you.  If you recovered to the center mark here, you would be a lot closer to the down-the-line return and much farther away from the crosscourt return.

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If you hit down the line, You would recover to the other side of the center mark to pout yourself in the exact same position, but ion the other side of the center mark.  This is why if you are planning on going down the line you need to make sure:

1. That you can wound your opponent
2. You are hitting a shot (usually a higher arc ball) that will give you time to recover

Otherwise the angle will hurt you if your opponent decides to hit it

 

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Another example I see all the time is when players hit an awesome LOW ball to a volleyer and wait to see (REACTIVE) what the volleyer is going to do. 90% of the time they either POP it up or DROP it just over the net.  They will have to hit up (because it is a low ball) so it will be difficult to hit a firm volley without sending it long.

By moving in BEFORE your opponent t hits the ball (PROACTIVE) you will be able to cover BOTH shots and give your opponent LESS time to recover.  This will make you seem extremely fast to your opponent, but you just knew where to move to!

These are just a few examples of moving to the proper position BEFORE you opponent hits the ball.  There are many situations that could be covered here.  The key to anticipating is to know where to move AFTER YOU hit the ball.

A classic example is that player that you are playing that seems to be running YOU all over the place, but they do not seem to be moving a whole lot.  They are toying with you, even though they do not seem to be hitting much differently than you are. Why is this……………………………………..

Because they know the best place to move after THEY hit the ball and just always seem to be in the correct position all of the time

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Links related to this episode

Info on Long Term Athletic Development:  http://www.oxfordshiresport.org/uploads/long-term-athlete-development-article.pdf

Playmate Ball Machine Drillshttps://www.playmatetennis.com/drillzone/index.asp

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